This document had to be deleted!
The visitor who discussed the biblical
Trinity with me in Discourses 26 and 262, almost 14 years
ago, has asserted that his texts are his intellectual
property and has requested me to delete all his comments.
As may easily be imagined, however, without these questions
and statements of my partner in the dialog my own answers
and comments are not that easy to understand.
As the man then threatened to set his lawyer on me, and
in view of the fact that I have absolutely no interest
in conducting a tedious legal dispute, I have decided to
delete both these discourses in their entirety.
This was all the easier to do in view of the fact that
Discourse 1072 (“Is the Trinity only an activity of God
in three persons?”) now offers readers who are interested
in the biblical Trinity a very much more and up-to-date
discussion of this topic.
(See also discourse 82: “Is
belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?”)
Vienna, 10th October 2014
The Biblical Trinity
There is just the one and only God in his three
authorities: God the Father as the legislative authority, comparable
with the legislature in human society; the Holy Spirit as the
authority of execution, similar to the political executive arm; and
the Son of God as the judicial authority, like the court of justice.
God has given human beings the law and the commandments (Ex 24:12),
the Holy Spirit registers the extent to which people observe them,
but only intervenes when human actions might otherwise contravene
God’s plan (2Thess 2:7), and the Son of God will judge every
single human being (Jn 5:22) at the Last
In this age of quantum entanglement – with its “spooky action at
a distance”, as Einstein termed it – the independent spiritual
personality of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and their simultaneous
presence (Jn 14:10-11) in the spirit of the one God (Jn 4:24), can only be a problem for
people living today if they are completely uninformed. In addition,
the Bible gives us numerous examples of manifestations of spirit in
the spirit of human beings (Mk 1:23-25; 5:6-8; Lk 3:24; but also Jn
The attempt to explain relations of this nature on the basis of the
ancient wisdom of the Fathers of the Church (Council of Nicea etc.)
was already erroneous in view of their assertion that the earth is
the center of the universe (The Creation.)
and might be regarded today as comparable to the attempt to explain
quantum mechanics by the laws of classical physics.
The actual reason why the Unitarians reject the Trinity
(There is no salvation apart from the
Trinity / C H. Spurgeon), is, first of all, the fact that they
refuse to accept the divinity of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ as God (Ps 45:7-8; Jn 20:28; Phil 2:5-6; 2Pet 1:1; 1Jn 5:20)
and even his pre-existence (Gen 1:26; 11:7) not to mention his
post-existence with God (Jn 14:23; 17:26!), would call in question their
entire false structure of faith with its "human Jesus" as a
"faith fighter", "pal" or "model of
suffering" and reduce it to absurdity.
But on the other hand the doctrine of the three in one – the Trinity
– was interpreted for centuries by the Catholic church according to
the whim and "feelings" of the old Church Fathers (Council of Nicea etc.)
and not in accordance with the Bible’s statements. As a result it
was easy for the representatives of "faith in the one God" – the
Unitarians – to question this in the light of the Bible.
But unfortunately the opportunity was missed of studying the Bible
in depth and determining what it actually says about the essence of
God, his Son and the Holy Spirit – instead, people just made use of
superficial arguments to rebut this equally incorrect Trinitarian dogma
of the Catholic church.