Discourse 148 – The extraterrestrials.

The extraterrestrials.

Einstein’s "spooky action at a distance" is a reality

The natural sciences do not know evolution / Book, Professor A.E. Wilder-Smith.

Where does it say in the Bible that man is a spirit being? / Comment MK)

The extraterrestrials.

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Study computes the probability of an alien invasion


Pontevedra, Spain – Based on statistical assumptions, a Spanish scientist has calculated the probability that humanity will one day encounter an extraterrestrial civilization hostile to us, which would then also be capable of attacking our planet.

That, or something like it, is what the scientists of our time expect when it comes to an invasion of extraterrestrials. It is astonishing, almost unbelievable indeed, that people who may have been dealing with the matter for decades are still not able to look beyond their own limited horizon.

"The first sip from the glass of science makes you an atheist, but God is waiting for you at the bottom of the glass."

(Werner Heisenberg, theoretical physicist, founder of modern quantum physics.)

So at the bottom of the "glass of science" we find God. But doesn’t this encourage us to expect that at the bottom of the glass – especially when it is the "glass" of the natural sciences – we should not only be able to recognize the existence of God, as Werner Heisenberg says above, but can also learn something about the "substance" of God? Everything existent, after all, must have a substance, a nature.

But this issue was unfortunately left to the humanities, and they in their turn have little idea of physics. And so this field of research remained hidden from humanity until today. And yet just in the physics of the last century we can find a quite similar case which should have given people pause for thought.

Almost exactly one hundred years ago, this same Werner Heisenberg formulated matrix mechanics as the foundation of quantum mechanics, which Max Planck then developed into his quantum theory. This led, in the course of experimental testing, to the discovery of "particle entanglement", whereby two atomic particles (qubits) were found to be capable of "communicating" with each other across any distance.

Einstein’s "spooky action at a distance" is a reality.

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Einstein’s "spooky action at a distance" is a reality.

Einstein was reluctant to believe that our world was as strange as quantum mechanics predicted. M.A. Rowe of the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, Colorado, together with his colleagues, has now closed one of the last back doors that was still open to the opponents of quantum mechanics. In contrast to earlier experiments, the physicists were able to catch virtually all particles in their experiment with "entangled particles" and register their properties. This has been reported in the scientific journal Nature.

The peculiarity of entangled particles is that they are in a common quantum state. This means that the properties of the two particles depend on each other. If one of the particles changes one of its properties, then is it the case that the other must do the same instantly, regardless of how far apart the particles are?

This last point, in particular, Einstein was unwilling to accept. In his theory of relativity, he had shown that nothing can move faster than light. But how then could the information about the change of state of one particle reach the other one instantaneously? Hence Einstein claimed in 1935 that quantum mechanics was wrong, or at least incomplete, and dismissed the phenomenon of entangled particles as "spooky action at a distance".

Albert Einstein

(Bild der Wissenschaft) [Picture of Science]

So Albert Einstein didn’t want to believe it, although he had drained the "glass of science" long since and knew that God existed – as his famous statement "God doesn’t play dice" demonstrates. And yet, as the above article describes, clear proof of this phenomenon has now been produced.

Science still does not know, right up to the present, how the mutual information of the two particles comes about, but in physics today nothing is as it once was. Just as Einstein believed that nothing could move faster than light, physics believes that the Big Bang was the beginning of all existence.

It is really quite astonishing that highly intelligent and creative scientists, like Albert Einstein, or the theoretical physicist Werner Heisenberg quoted above, did not have the first idea that there is still something else outside the "garden fence" of our spatio-temporal universe. And what is more, not just something other, but actually the main thing, or better still: the main original cause.

Theories had certainly been developed as to what could have existed before the Big Bang, but these considerations did not go beyond the confines of the spatio-temporal-material universe. People looked for the trigger of the Big Bang exclusively on the material plane and did not consider that there must be a "gardener", that is to say a force to have done all this work in this "garden" universe. People invariably remained restricted to the area of the familiar, the tried and tested, namely the material world we all know.

Theoretical physicists had already had this experience when researching quantum physics: afterwards, nothing in physics was the same as before. Even Albert Einstein was converted eventually, and actually made an important contribution to research into the quantum.

If people had really taken this search for the trigger of the Big Bang seriously, they would have inevitably moved from the natural sciences into the realm of the humanities. Unless, of course, they happened to be a Christian. Not a worldly Christian, but a biblical Christian, one who also reads the Bible seriously – not just on Sundays, as a once a week ritual.

For in fact the Bible actually holds the answer to this question. The Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, has given us the answer: "God is spirit" he reveals to us in the Gospel of John (4,24). Everyone immediately dismisses it out of hand. To begin with, in most scientific fields "God" is not an admissible concept. And then too, "spirit". Just what is that?
It is rather like trying to explain higher mathematics to an aged construction worker. That might be possible if the old man were actually interested in it. But where do you find a scientist who is interested in God?

Yet there are exceptions. I was privileged to meet such a scientist in the 1970s. It was the American natural scientist (organic chemist) of German descent Professor A. E. Wilder Smith, who at that time gave lectures at the Technical University of Vienna. Not about organic chemistry, but about "God in the Natural Sciences".

The natural sciences do not know evolution.

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(The natural sciences do not know evolution. / Book, Professor A.E. Wilder-Smith 00, page 18 ff)

The theory of evolution is of course a philosophy, namely a philosophy which promises something "for nothing" (i.e. for free) – a principle which has been popular from time immemorial! It promises the formation and creation of order – in fact of machines [biological] machines – from disorder without concept or teleonomy [purposiveness] – and all this for nothing". It promises to bring forth the order of life spontaneously with non-directed energy (i.e. without concept) out of the disorder of non-living matter. It promises to explain the formation of the most complex biological machine – for the biological cell is an unimaginably complex metabolic machine – without prior know-how or concept. Where in the history of experimental natural science can one find a postulate for the construction of a machine from "raw" matter without concept, know-how or information – merely on the basis of self-organization? Neo-Darwinism postulates the emergence of the most sophisticated coding for a machine, far more complex than any machine invented by man, by chance and self-organization. What information engineer attributes the evolution of code and the content of code to chance? Such a postulate would be flatly and immediately rejected on the basis of common sense alone in all other fields of the natural sciences, except for neo-Darwinian biology.


Prof. Dr. Dr. Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith

This excerpt is taken from the book "Die Naturwissenschaften kennen keine Evolution" ["The natural sciences know nothing of evolution"] by the natural scientist Professor A. E Wilder-Smith (1915-1995), Einigen, Switzerland (Schwabe & Co Verlag, [Schwabe & Co. Publishers] Basel/Stuttgart 1978). Professor Wilder-Smith held positions at the University of London, the University of Geneva, the ETH [Federal Institute of Technology] in Zurich and the University of Illinois, Chicago, among others. He was an advisor to the US Armed Forces of NATO with the rank of general on the problem of drug abuse, and a visiting professor at various medical universities in the US and Europe.

Wilder-Smith ’ s last sentence above exposes the disingenuous simple-mindedness which scientists allow themselves when it comes to the question of "creation or evolution". The banality and scientific poverty of the answers then supplied would be rejected "in all other fields of the natural sciences, … flatly and immediately on the basis of common sense alone."

Wilder-Smith knows that behind the creation stands another spirit than that of "nature" – namely God as a spirit being in his heavenly, timelessly eternal dimension. He was the initiator of the Big Bang, but not only that, he must also have planned beforehand everything that he then created in the material spatiotemporal universe.

Everything works together, everything interacts, in the universe and especially on our planet. This is something that any scientist should be able to recognize, whether they are an astrophysicist, a biochemist or a neurologist – and in fact should be obvious to any rational person.

The fact that this is not the case actually proves that it is not a question of intelligence, but one of conscious and deliberate denial. People are just plain terrified of losing their position at the pinnacle of society, as "white gods". This is a symtom which has thrown the world into chaos on a previous occasion.

When they passed judgment on Jesus Christ the Jewish Sanhedrin, the high priest Caiaphas and his councilors, had a similar fear and condemned the Son of God to death on the cross to get rid of him. Today you can’t "get rid of" God, so you simply deny him.

But to return to our topic: if you study the Bible seriously, and study it for years, you realize that it is not just God who is spirit. In God’s heavenly dimension (from the human point of view a kind of other universe: eternal, therefore timeless and possibly even spacetime-less), all the inhabitants are spirit beings.

But then again – and here comes the crux – we human beings are future spiritual beings. The original form of intelligent living beings is spiritual. And we human beings are in a first phase of this development. God has created this whole material universe as a "nursery", so to speak, for his future children.

We grow up here as physical-biological creatures, make connections throughout our life on this planet "prepared" by God. We learn and recognize who we are – or not – and at death our hopefully mature spirit goes into the waiting stage in the realm of the dead. There it is reborn as a spirit being at the resurrection, the rebirth from the spirit.

What then follows is an eternal life as an immortal spirit being with God in his timeless dimension. But only for those "children" who have allowed themselves to be taught on earth, in the prenatal phase. The others also have eternal existence, but in a place which one would rather not have anything to do with.

The result of my very long studies can be summarized in the following statement:

The human being is in its life as an intelligent mammal on earth in a prenatal phase. The rebirth takes place after its physical death and the resurrection of the spirit in the timeless heavenly dimension, as an immortal, sexless spiritual being.

(God wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1Tim 2,3-4;)
 (Dan 2:20-22)

(And seen in this light, we should be careful not to badmouth the extraterrestrials, because in the end we are extraterrestrials ourselves!)

At the end of this document, in the two boxes that you may also know from the opening credits, I have tried to explain these connections in a little more detail. In doing so, I am aware that a lot of criticism is likely to come my way. I can only assure you that I have strictly adhered to the Bible in my exegesis, and have documented this with the relevant Bible references for verification. The few conclusions which I have drawn on my own account were logically unavoidable.

Where does it say in the Bible that man is a spirit being?

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Good day,
in your article about "the extraterrestrials" you claim on the one hand that you argue only on the basis of the Bible; but on the other, you assert that "human beings are spirit beings in their prenatal phase". I have not found this anywhere in the Bible. Can you please just tell me where in the Bible I can find this passage where it says that man is a spirit being?

M. C.

Thank you for your visit to Immanuel.at and for your question.

Just to get one thing straight, of course you won’t find that in the Bible. It is nowhere written in the Bible that "Man is a spirit being in the prenatal phase". But if you read the article carefully, I did not actually write that. What I said was:

"The few conclusions which I have drawn on my own account were logically unavoidable."

Now of course I know that logic is not everyone’s cup of tea, so I’ll be happy to explain the connections.

First of all, the trivial variant, which, however, has even more significance for a biblical Christian than the logical one.

Our Lord Jesus Christ has told us:

"If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! [Mt 7,11] "
"so Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God [Jh 1,12]"

So God in heaven is our Father and we are his children. And then the Lord also tells us:

"God is spirit, and his worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth. [Jn 4,24]"

Now if you, who are a human being, can rightly assume that your children, when they are born, are human beings just like you, then why should the children of a father who is a spirit being not likewise be spirit beings after their birth (or rebirth)?

So that is the trivial answer.

And now it gets a bit complicated, because the other variant requires logic.

From the Gospel of John we know that the Lord Jesus appeared to the disciples several times after his resurrection. The first of these appearances was on the evening of the day of his resurrection, and John describes it like this:

"On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you!’ [Jn 20,19]"

The disciples had gathered on the upper floor of the house and had locked the doors tightly, because they feared that the Jews would come to arrest them as well. And suddenly, there stood Jesus in the midst of them. With the doors locked, mind you. And this is repeated after a week:

"A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you!’ [Jn 20,26]"

Here again, John specifically points out that the doors were closed when the Lord suddenly stood in the midst of them. Well now, anyone who can walk through locked doors, in our spatiotemporal universe, is a spirit being from a human point of view. If the Lord, on his second visit here, had the disciples feel his hands and his side to prove that he was not a spirit, but a man of flesh and blood, that is not a contradiction.

In our three-dimensional universe, of course, flesh and blood cannot pass through closed doors. Jesus also tells us, in Jh 3,5: "Unless one is born of (…) the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." And here, after his resurrection, he has just come from the kingdom of God, the kingdom of heaven. So it follows that he must have been spirit.

Hence the fact that he here showed he was made of flesh and blood is only the proof that he had rematerialized himself again after his appearance in the midst of the disciples, so this is evidently another ability of spirit-born beings. So much, then, for the appearances of the Lord.

But what does this have to do with us humans, why should we too be spirit beings? Paul writes about this in his first letter to the Corinthians:

1Cor 15,22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1Cor 15,22;

Verse 15,22, above, describes the simple fact of the resurrection: the fact that the Son of God rose again after his death is the biblical proof and guarantee that we humans as well, after our death, will rise. And then, in verse 15:23, Paul calls the Lord "firstfruits." And this prompts the question: firstfruits of what?

What it means is the firstfruits of all humanity!!! Paul is actually speaking here, quite explicitly, about all human beings:

"For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive (brought back to life)." But this comparison does not extend just to the resurrection itself. When Paul calls the Lord "firstfruits" here, it means that we humans will follow him on this very same path – right to its conclusion. And so we too, like him, will be with the Father in the end.

And now Paul goes on:

1Cor 15,23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 15,24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 1Cor 15,23-24;

So this is the order of events with the resurrection:

1.  Christ as the firstfruits;

2.  Then those who belong to Christ (i.e. the deceased ["raising"] and believers in Christ still living ["changed", 1Cor 15:51] at the time of the Second Coming of the Lord, in the Rapture);

The next resurrection is not mentioned by Paul here, but it is described elsewhere. So let us include it for the sake of completeness:

3.  the resurrection of the martyrs (for the Judgment of Reward); finally,

4.  the General Resurrection (15,24: the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father, at the end of the world for the Last Judgment).

According to Paul’s statements, then, after our death we will walk the same path that our Lord, Jesus Christ, has trodden. This means that in the end we too will be able to pass through closed doors. And this is exactly what the Lord explained to Nicodemus, a Jewish scribe and member of the council, when he asked him how it is possible to be born again as an old man:

Jn 3,3 Jesus replied, ‘Very truly I tell you, no-one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.’ 3,4 ‘How can someone be born (born again) when they are old?’ Nicodemus asked. ‘Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!’ 3,5 Jesus answered, ‘Very truly I tell you, no-one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 3,6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 3,7 You should not be surprised at my saying, “You must be born again." 3,8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.’ Jn 3,3- 8;

With his statement above, in Jn 3,5: "Unless someone is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God", the Lord refers first, with the birth "of water" (amniotic fluid) to the biological, physical birth of a a human being (flesh). The birth "of the Spirit", on the other hand, is the spiritual birth of the deceased human being in the resurrection, as a spirit being.

And in Jn 3,8 the Lord at once gives an example of how to recognize a newborn human being:

"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot
tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with
everyone born of the Spirit

So the newborn human being is like the wind: you can hear its sound, but you do not see it and do not know where it comes from or where it goes. The man born again of the Spirit, in the resurrection, is therefore an invisible spirit being. And Jesus has previously given a hint, in Jn 3,3, about the prerequisites for a human being to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, i.e. the Kingdom of God:

"no-one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again/from above."

So it is clear that both are necessary: the biological, fleshly birth, "of water" – without which the human being would not exist at all. But then, after death, the rebirth "of the Spirit", in the resurrection, is likewise essential. Then – and only then – is the metamorphosis of the human being completed.

And then, in Jn 3,6, the Lord’s pronouncement confirms the view we advocate here at Immanuel.at:

"Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit."

And also Paul describes in his first letter to the Corinthians the differences between the bodies born of the flesh and the bodies born of the Spirit:

I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

1Cor 15,35 But someone will ask, ‘How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?’ 15,36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 15,37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 15,38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 15,39 Not all flesh is the same: people have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 15,40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendour of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendour of the earthly bodies is another. 15,41 The sun has one kind of splendour, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendour.

15,42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised mperishable; 15,43 it is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 15,44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 15,45 So it is written: ‘The first man Adam became a living being’; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 15,46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 15,47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 15,48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 15,49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[4] bear the image of the heavenly man.15,50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1Kor 15,35-50;

All this has led me to conclude, according to inescapable logic, that the human being in this newborn status, after death and resurrection, must be a spirit being. This is then also my answer to your question:

"Can you please just tell me where in the Bible I can find this passage where it says, that man is a spirit being?"

(This statement of the Lord’s would also be worth checking out for those brothers and sisters in the Lord and biblical commentators who hold the doctrine that the brothers and sisters in Christ can be [become] "born again" already during their lifetime – in the flesh.)

I hope you can now follow my logic and remain with kind regards

Friedrich Horak