18 arguments for placing the Rapture before the Great
Tribulation / Book René Pache 00, pp 92ff
Argument 1: Must the congregation go through the
"hour of testing"?
Argument 2: Is the Great Tribulation the "wrath
of the Lamb"?
Argument 3: Is the Great Tribulation the "judgment
on the household of God"?
Argument 4: Will the faithful be "redeemed"
before the Great Tribulation?
Argument 5: Does the congregation of the Last Days
escape the Great Tribulation – or rather have we Christians been doing so for nearly 2000 years?
Argument 6: The Antichrist before the Second
Coming of the Lord, i.e. the Rapture immediately after the tribulation of those
days in the Great Tribulation.
Table – The Great Tribulation
classified by events.
Argument 7: Does the battle of Armageddon come at
the end of the Great Tribulation?
Argument 8: Do the faithful of all times have a
part in the First Resurrection?
Argument 9: Will the congregation judge the
martyrs?
Argument 10: Must the elect flee at the time of
the Rapture, or should they wait it out?
Argument 11: Do the prophecies relating to Israel
take their course before or after the Great Tribulation?
Argument 12: Does not one of the epistles speak
of details of the Great Tribulation?
Argument 13: Are the letters to the churches in
Revelation chronologically arranged?
Argument 14: Are the 24 elders in Revelation the
congregation?
Argument 15: Is the woman in heaven in Rev 12 the
congregation?
Argument 16: Is the congregation the "bride of
the Lamb"?
Argument 17: After the visible return of the
Lord, can anyone still come to "believe"?
Argument 18: Are the "ambassadors of God"
already relieved of their office before the Great Tribulation, in the interest of their safety?
Table – Sequence and Duration of events in the Last Days
The first and the second Antichrist
part 1, Discourse 86
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"For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since
the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall. And unless those days had been cut short,
no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days shall be cut short...
But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will
not give its light, and the stars will falls from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be
shaken, and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of
the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with
power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will
gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other." Matt.
24,21-22.29-31.
In our view, we here have to do with those who will be converted after the Rapture of the
congregation, during the dominion of the Antichrist. (…)
But it seems that the congregation is raptured before the Great Tribulation. Numerous passages
permit this assumption.
Extract from the book "Die Wiederkunft Christi" ('Le retour du Jésu-Christ'); [’The Second
Coming of Christ’] by René Pache, R. Brockhaus Verlag [R. Brockhaus Publihsers], Wuppertal
In what follows Mr. R. Pache now advances 18 arguments that are designed to prove
the doctrine of Pretribulationism. In the light of the new view of the events of the Last Days
presented in Discourse 86 – in particular the distinction between the Great Tribulation with
the first Antichrist, the "man of lawlessness" as Paul calls him in 2The 2,3, and the Day of
the Wrath of God, with the second Antichrist, described by John in Revelation as the "beast
from the sea" – it seems appropriate here to examine Mr. Pache’s proofs in the light of Scripture
so as to check their plausibility.
(See also Table 14: "The Great Tribulation – classified
by events."
First of all let me just give a short summary of the insights arrived at in Discourse 86. On the
basis of the analysis carried out there, it becomes clear that the Great Tribulation has a
completely different background from what has hitherto been generally assumed. The reason for this
mistaken understanding is the failure to distinguish between the two Antichrists, and the
accompanying circumstances in each case. A further consequence of this is a confusion between the
Great Tribulation (first Antichrist, the "man of lawlessness", wars throughout the world,
climatic catastrophe and famines) with the Day of the Lord and of the Wrath of God (second
Antichrist, the "beast from the sea", the world dominated by demonic forces). This Day of the
Wrath of God reaches its climax in the judgments of the bowls (Rev 16,1-21) which are poured out on
the second, demonic Antichrist and his worshipers, and ends with the battle of Armageddon (Rev
19,11-21), where this demon, along with his false prophet, is finally defeated and annihilated.
So we plainly have to do here with two Antichrists, who however are nonetheless identical:
o First the Antichrist in human form, the "man of godlessness",
as Paul calls him. He is an earthly ruler in the Last Days who receives his power from Satan. He
performs false signs and wonders, and founds his dominion on deceit and injustice (2The 2:7-10). He
will be killed by the Lord when the Lord comes again to rapture the faithful, with the breath of his
mouth – that is to say, a sharp sword that comes out of his mouth (Rev 1:16) gives the Antichrist a
fatal swordstroke.
o In Rev 13:1, Satan then raises this man who has been killed from
the dead, and endows him now with all his own might and power, even giving him his throne (Rev 13:2). This demon will exercise an absolute dominion on earth, and will have all
people killed who do not worship him (Rev 13:15). This is now the second, demonic Antichrist, the
beast from the sea described by John in Rev 13,1ff. He and the hosts of the worldly kings (Rev 19:19) who are in league with him will be defeated at the battle of Armageddon by the Son of God and
his heavenly host (Rev 19:14). While the people who have fought for the beast in this battle are
killed by the sword that comes out of the mouth of the Son of God (Rev 19:21), the beast – the
demonic Antichrist – and his false prophet are consigned to the second death and thrown alive into
the lake of fire (Rev 19:20).
Readers who are starting their reading with this Discourse directly would be
bly advised to read also Discourse 86, in order to have a better understanding of the
background.
(See also Discourse 86: "The first and the second
Antichrist")
Here now are René Pache’s 18 arguments.
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"Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also shall keep you from the hour of
testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell upon the
earth" (Rev 3,10). The Greek text actually says – I will save you out of the hour of
testing, which in the language of Revelation can only mean the Great Tribulation.
As we can see, the whole misunderstanding begins right at the start of this
argument. The "hour of testing" just is not the Great Tribulation at all. According to
Scripture, the Great Tribulation is a time of wars all over the world, catastrophic droughts,
famines and earthquakes, as we can see from the parallel passages Mt 24 and Rev 6.
o Worldwide wars
It was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another.
Rev 6,3 When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living
creature saying, "Come." 6,4 And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it,
it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great
sword was given to him. Rev 6, 3- 4;
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
Mt 24,6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that
you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 24,7 "For
nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will
be famines and earthquakes. Mt 24, 6- 7;
o Catastrophic droughts and famines
A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.
Rev 6,3 When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come." 6,4 And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from the earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him. 6,5 When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6,6 And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine." Rev 6,3-6;
In various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Mt 24,7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. Mt 24, 7;
o Billions of people die
Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine.
Rev 6,7 When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the
fourth living creature saying, "Come." 6,8 I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he
who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over
a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts
of the earth. Rev 6, 7- 8;
And these of the faithful who have lost their lives in the first
part of the Great Tribulation – in the "tribulation of those days – are
then seen later by John, in heaven, in Rev 7,13-17:
They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat.
Rev 7,13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who
are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 7,14 I said to
him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out
of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood
of the Lamb. 7,15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day
and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 7,16
"They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any
heat; 7,17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them
to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes." Rev 7, 13-17;
They have come out of the Great Tribulation on earth and now stand, after their
raising from the dead and Rapture, before the throne of God and serve him day and night. And as the
elder says to John, now "they will hunger no longer nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down
on them, nor any heat" – referring to all the afflictions that they had during their life on
earth.
Conclusion
The Great Tribulation is not the hour of testing, but rather a time of global climatic catastrophes,
with famines and droughts and civil wars all over the world, in which people will kill each other
wholesale. The "hour of testing" referred to in Rev 13,10 is actually something quite different.
This is the time of the dominion of the demonic Antichrist, who compels people with his Satanic
powers to worship him and has anyone killed who refuses. This is the hour of massive testing on the
Day of the Lord and of the Wrath of God, when many people will prefer to abjure God in order to
avoid being killed.
(See also Discourse 05: "The parallel course of
events of Mt 24 and Rev 6 and 7")
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The judgments of the tribulation are referred to as "the wrath of the Lamb" (Rev 6,16). But
now the congregation has no reason to be afraid of this wrath. It awaits Jesus not as its judge,
but as its bridegroom, to celebrate with him the Marriage of the Lamb (Rev 19,7-9).
As we have seen above, the plagues of the tribulation are not yet actually judgments of God. Rather they are the worldwide catastrophes which human beings have themselves occasioned, through their hunger for power and profit and their depredation of our planet. The struggle for the last remaining natural resources then evidently leads to those civil wars in which "nation shall rise against (own) nation and kingdom against (own) kingdom, and men shall slay one another" (Rev 6,4 above).
The great day of the wrath of God and the Lamb.
Rev 6,16 and they said to the mountains and to the
rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 6,17 for the great day of their
wrath has come, and who is able to stand?" Rev 6,16-17;
The "Wrath of God and the Lamb" – as we see it really should be,
when we look more closely at Rev 6,16-17 – is indeed something that the congregation need not be afraid of,
for she was raptured immediately before (Mt 24:29-31).
As Paul also assures us in 1The 5,9: "For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation
through our Lord Jesus Christ." But this Day of the Wrath of God is not the Great Tribulation, but
a time years later – the time of the dominion of the beast from the sea, the demonic Antichrist,
when in the judgments of the bowls the real judgment of God’s wrath will be visited on mankind.
Seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God, who lives forever and ever.
Rev 15,7 Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels
seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God, who lives forever and ever. Rev 15, 7;
Conclusion
The Great Tribulation, that is to say the apostasy, with the first Antichrist (the seventh king of
the north in Dan 11,40-41; 12,11-13; the man of lawlessness in 2The 2,3; the rider on the white
horse in Rev 6,1-2) extends to the first five plagues of the seals. With the sixth seal, in Rev 6:12-17 (Mt
24:29-31), the darkening of the heavenly bodies, and so also the Second Coming of the
Lord with the raising from the dead and Rapture of the faithful, is foretold. Only after that, in
Rev 6,16, is the Day of the Wrath of God and of the Lamb announced. This is the preparation for the
Day of the Lord, which finds its climax in the dominion of the beast, the demonic Antichrist, with
the killing of all who refuse to worship the beast. So the Rapture occurs
immediately after the tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation (Mt 24:29), and only after that does the Day of the Lord begin, with the wrath of
God and of the Lamb and the judgments of wrath on earth.
(See also Table 14: "The Great Tribulation – classified
by events."
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The judgment must begin with the household of God. But God begins with us just so that we shall
not be damned with the rest of the world.
Conclusion
This is correct. God may allow the congregation to undergo the catastrophes of the Great
Tribulation, but raptures them before the Day of the Lord comes, and his wrath is poured out on
humanity in the time of the dominion of the beast. But this is an argument for a Rapture after the
Great Tribulation and not before!
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"But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your
redemption is drawing near" (Lk 21,28). How could we begin, in expectation of the Tribulation,
to look up and rejoice, when it is this very thing that we are to be preserved from?
This overlooks what is evident to any unprejudiced reader: the Lord of course does
not address these words to us, to the faithful before the Tribulation, but offers them as
encouragement to the congregation in the Great Tribulation. In the preceding passage (Lk
21,9-11) we find exactly the same statement made by the Lord as in Mt 24,6-8 above:
Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
Lk 21,9 "When you hear of wars and disturbances, do not be
terrified; for these things must take place first, but the end does not follow immediately."
21,10 Then He continued by saying to them, "Nation will rise against nation and kingdom
against kingdom, 21,11 and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and
famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. Lk 21, 9-11;
This is the Great Tribulation, with its worldwide wars, revolts, famines and
plagues. And for the benefit of the faithful who will survive this period to its close, the Lord
points to the events which will mark the end of the time of tribulation. The heavenly bodies will be
darkened and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Lord Jesus coming
in a cloud for the Rapture of his faithful.
There will be signs in sun and moon and stars.
Lk 21,25 "There will be signs in sun and moon and stars,
and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, 21,26
men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the
powers of the heavens will be shaken. 21,27 "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in
a cloud with power and great glory. Lk 21,25-27;
It would of course be much simpler if Mr. Pache were to quote this text from
Matthew, where these connections are explained in a much clearer and more comprehensive way. But
evidently Pretribulationists have a block against Matthew’s version, because
there after all we find it stated, perfectly clearly, that the Lord will come to
rapture his faithful immediately after the tribulation of those
days in the Great Tribulation – that is, after it has ended. And this could cause difficulties for the
advocates of a Rapture before Tribulation. So they prefer to opt for this passage from Luke (Lk
21,25-27), where matters are not described with the same precision.
But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light.
Mt 24,29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those
days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from
the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 24,30 "And then the sign of the Son
of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will
see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. Mt 24,29-30;
So these are the events to which the believers, who survive until the end of the tribulation of those days – not until the end of the Great Tribulation, because it continues with the Day of the Lord and the wrath of God - should pay attention: the stars will darken, the stars will fall from the sky and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Lord coming on the clouds. And this is where the passage from Luke quoted by R. Pache belongs, where the Lord tells them:
These then are the events to which the faithful who survive
until the end of the tribulation of those days – not until the end of the Great
Tribulation, because it continues with the Day of the Lord and the wrath of God
- should pay heed: the heavenly bodies will be darkened, the stars will fall from heaven and
the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Lord coming on the clouds. And
this, now, is where the passage from Luke quoted by Mr. Pache belongs, when the Lord tells them:
But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.
Lk 21,28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten
up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." Lk 21,28;
And the redemption which is here approaching is the Second Coming of the Lord and
the Rapture of the surviving faithful, together with the dead who have been raised, as – to complete
the picture – we can read in Matthew:
Mt 24,31 "And He will send forth His angels with a great
trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to
the other. Mt 24,31;
And just this is foretold by Paul as well, in summary fashion, in his first epistle
to the Corinthians:
We who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.
1The 4,16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
4,17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet
the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. The 4,16-17:
Conclusion
Here not only has the text been torn out of context, it has also been interpreted in the teeth of
any sound sense. When the faithful are enjoined to "straighten up and lift up their heads, because
their redemption is drawing near", this obviously means that up to this point they have been
oppressed with terror, hanging their heads and begging for an end to their affliction. How can
anyone suppose here that these encouraging words of the Lord’s are addressed to a congregation
before the Tribulation, a congregation living in security and prosperity, unafflicted by trials -
who now, on top of that, are supposed to have nothing to look forward to but the joyful prospect of
their coming Rapture?
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"But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have the strength to escape
all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man" (Lk 21,36).
So it follows that by staying alert and praying it is possible to escape from all these things
that are to come.
Keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place.
Lk 21,34 "Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted
down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you
suddenly like a trap; 21,35 for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth.
21,36 "But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all
these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man." Lk
21,34-36;
All rightly believing Christians have been staying alert for practically two thousand years to prevent their hearts from being weighted down by the cares of this world, and praying to the Lord that they may be able to escape from these judgments of the Last Days. And as it appears, the Lord has heard their prayers up to the present day, and has kept on putting off the time of tribulation. And so we too today are able to hope that we will be permitted to die in our beds without persecution or torture and may be able to escape from all these things that are to come, so that we may stand before the Lord after our raising from the dead and Rapture and immediately after the tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation.
Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation.
Mt 26,41 "Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into
temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."; Mt 26,41;
Conclusion
By contrast with the preceding Argument 4, based on Lk
21,28, the Lord addresses these words here (Lk 21,36) not to the faithful in the Great Tribulation
but rather to the faithful of all nations and times over the past period of nearly two thousand
years. Here his injunction to "pray at all times" does not refer to any special situation or
event either, but applies to the lifetime of each and every one of us. And the promise conveyed in
the words "that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and
to stand before the Son of Man" points to the grace of the Lord, in permitting us to live and die
before these afflictions of the Last Days take place, so that we may stand before the Lord following
our raising from the dead and Rapture immediately after the tribulation of those
days in the Great Tribulation.
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According to Paul, the appearance of the Antichrist precedes the Second Coming of the Lord: "And
you know what restrains him (the Antichrist) now, so that in his time he (the Antichrist) may be
revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do
so until he is taken out of the way. And then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord
will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of his coming"
(2The 2,6-8). It has often been asked who can be meant by "he who now restrains" – whose
disappearance is the precondition for the revelation of the Antichrist. The following view seems
to us the most accurate: the congregation is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1Cor 3,16; Eph
2,21-22). So if the congregation is once raptured, the Holy Spirit no longer has a dwelling
place on earth, and will no longer be able to oppose the flood of temptation. Then evil will be
unleashed, and the "man of lawlessness" becomes for a short time the apparent master of the
situation. If we understand this correctly, at the start of the Great Tribulation the Lord will
withdraw his presence from apostasized humanity. On the other hand, Christians are the salt of
the earth (Mt 5,13). So it is not surprising if their Rapture should hasten the corruption of
the world. Let us not forget here that the Holy Spirit will continue to work, even after the
Rapture of the congregation, in people of good will. During the Great Tribulation he will be
poured out on Israel to lead them to conversion (Zech 12,10; Eze 39,29; Isa 59,20-21). We also
know that at the same period a great number from all nations will be saved (Rev 7,9.14). And as
faith in Christ is not possible without the support of the Holy Spirit, he must continue his
work on earth at least in part.
Mr. Pache’s above statement – "According to Paul, the appearance of the Antichrist precedes the Second Coming of the Lord" – indicating the occurrence of the Second Coming of the Lord and the Rapture after the appearance of the Antichrist and immediately after the tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation – is perfectly correct, and corresponds exactly with the text in 2The 2,3. But this quite patently contradicts his own view of the Second Coming of the Lord and the Rapture as happening before the Great Tribulation. The attempt to change the subject to a discussion of the question "who" or "what" is the restraining factor cannot reverse the meaning of these words of Paul’s either. We can see this if we look at the context of this passage, which Mr. Pache unfortunately does not quote above, although this might have permitted him to recognize the true sequence of events.
It will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.
2The 2,1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming
of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2,2 that you not be quickly shaken
from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to
the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 2,3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for
it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son
of destruction, 2,4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of
worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 2,5 Do you
not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 2The 2, 1- 5;
Paul writes here, in 2The 2,2, of "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our
gathering together to Him", by which he undoubtedly means the Second Coming of the Lord for the
Rapture of his faithful. And he then makes this more specific still in verse 3: the day "will not
come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed". And there
cannot be any doubt here either than the apostasy means the Great Tribulation, and the man of
lawlessness the first Antichrist. It follows then that the Second Coming of the Lord and the Rapture
of the congregation takes place immediately after the
tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation.
And just this finds an additional confirmation from the context of the passage quoted by Mr. Pache
above (2The 2,6-10):
That lawless one whom the Lord will bring to an end by the appearance of His coming.
2The 2,6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he
will be revealed. 2,7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains
will do so until he is taken out of the way. 2,8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the
Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;
2,9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs
and false wonders, 2,10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they
did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 2The 2, 6-10;
So if the Lord Jesus, when he comes for our gathering together with him (...) will
remove the man of lawlessness "with the breath of his mouth", this Antichrist must have been
living on earth before and must have exercised dominion in the Great Tribulation.
Now Paul writes in the above passage (2The 2,6): "And you know what restrains him now, so that in
his time he may be revealed", and here he evidently refers to his earlier visit to Thessalonica,
of which he also speaks in verse 2,5. As an interpreter of these passages, one could wish that Paul
had repeated the oral statements he had made on this visit in his letter here, in order to clarify
what he meant in this sentence by "what restrains him now" and in the next sentence by "he who
now restrains". But unfortunately he has not done this, and so we must try to interpret the verses
2The 2,6 and 2,7 in their rather difficult original Greek formulation.
Here, however, we do not intend to re-examine interpretations referring to the congregation (what)
and the Holy Spirit (who), or the order of the Roman state (what) and the Roman emperor (who) -
these are already sufficiently familiar – but rather to endeavor to find an answer in Scripture
itself. In 2The 2,8 Paul refers to the Antichrist as the "man of lawlessness" and to his
dominion as the "mystery of lawlessness". But the Lord also speaks of this time of apostasy and
affliction in his discourse on the Last Days (Mt 24, 9-13):
Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold.
Mt 24,9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will
kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 24,10 "At that time many
will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. 24,11 "Many false prophets
will arise and will mislead many. 24,12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s
love will grow cold. 24,13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. Mt 24,
9-13;
The Lord speaks here of the Great Tribulation (see also Mt 24,21), of the apostasy,
that is to say, which Paul also mentions in 2The 2,3. And both speak of "lawlessness", with the
same Greek word anomia. And now Paul says that the mystery of lawlessness will be revealed
with the Antichrist, and the Lord Jesus prophesies with reference to this time that lawlessness will
increase, and so most people’s love will grow cold. Now as has already been demonstrated in the
first part of this Discourse, this first Antichrist, this man of lawlessness, is not a Jew but a
heathen dictator. So "lawlessness" here cannot mean (just) contempt for the Mosaic Law of the
Old Testament (the Tora) either, but must be injustice as such in the widest possible sense.
So it is a matter here above all of worldly injustice – deceit, corruption, lies, false judgments,
blackmail, theft, robbery and so on. And not just in a criminal environment either, but among the
most highly placed figures in the politics, society and industry. People take whatever they can lay
their hands on, without any consideration or scruple. As Paul writes, this lawlessness has already
started to show its first beginnings, and it is all too understandable when the Lord also foretells
that as a result of the increase in lawlessness in the time of the Great Tribulation most people’s
love will grow cold. And if we look at the situation today, we can see that this trend is already
prevalent on a worldwide scale. Particularly in the states of the Third World, but increasingly also
in the industrial nations, corruption – also and especially the judges – , deceit and all kinds of
criminality are increasing all the time. And this leads to people’s having ever greater reservations
in relation to one another, so that in this way mutual love in most people’s hearts grows cold
and dies away.
So if, in our search for that mystery mentioned by Paul which restrains the lawlessness, we also
take into account the Lord’s prophecy where he says that human love will grow cold because of the
increasing lawlessness in the Last Days, we may assume, conversely, that it has evidently been love
which has held this lawlessness in check for the past period of almost two thousand years. But now,
as a result of the progressive global collapse of all natural barriers and thresholds of inhibition
on all levels of human society, the way is being prepared for injustice, lawlessness and so for the
man of lawlessness, the first Antichrist.
In what concerns the text of 2The 2,7 and "he who now restrains", translations of this generally
read "until he who now restrains is taken out of the way (done away with)" or "must
be taken out of the way". The actual Greek words here, however, are "genetai"
(comes to be) "ek mesou" (an expression meaning "out of view"). And so the
translation "done away with", in particular, does not quite do justice to the meaning of the
Greek "genètai". If someone comes to be "out of view", it does not necessarily mean
that he has been "done away with" or even "taken away", as it is quite explicitly expressed
in Col 2,14; it may equally be that he has himself withdrawn. If we take this into account,
we get the following translation of 2The 2,7:
2The 2,7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he
who now restrains will do so until he has retired. 2The 2, 7;
And we find a comparable situation in Rev 5,1-14, which may serve to explain Paul’s
remarks above. There a kind of transfer of power takes place. All attributes which are ascribed to
God the Almighty in Rev 4,11 – glory, honor and dominion, and so also the authority of decision -
are now conferred on the Son as well.
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom.
Rev 5,11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around
the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads,
and thousands of thousands, 5,12 saying with a loud voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was
slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing."
5,13 And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea,
and all things in them, I heard saying, "To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be
blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." 5,14 And the four living creatures
kept saying, "Amen." And the elders fell down and worshiped. Rev 5,11-14;
(See also Discourse 108: "Who
or what still restrains the Antichrist?")
So God the Almighty has withdrawn, and the Lamb, the Son of God, our Lord Jesus
Christ, accedes here to power. He is found worthy to open the book of the seven seals – the events
of the Last Days that have been sealed by God. And his first act as ruler of this world is the
opening of the first seal.
A white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and he went out conquering and to conquer.
Rev 6,1 Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals,
and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, "Come."
6,2 I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to
him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. Rev 6, 1- 2;
It is the rider on the white horse, who goes out conquering and to conquer, who is
here let loose. After God has retired and the Son has entered on his dominion, it is granted to
Satan to tempt humanity; and Satan allows his first chess piece, the man of lawlessness, to be
revealed, as Paul has also foretold.
He who now restrains will do so until he has retired and then that lawless one will be revealed.
2The 2,6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he
will be revealed. 2,7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains
will do so until he has retired. 2,8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will
slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 2The 2,
6- 8;
So we have here a plausible explanation of 2The 2,6-7, and a connection between this
passage and the rider on the white horse, the first Antichrist, in Rev 6,1-3.
But Mr. Pache then also suggests (in the further course of his argument, in which he advocates the
conservative interpretation of 2The 2,7 as referring to the congregation):
"The congregation is the temple of the Holy Spirit. (...) So if the
congregation is once raptured, the Holy Spirit no longer has a dwelling place on earth."
Now if the Holy Spirit, on the supposed Rapture of the congregation before the Great
Tribulation, as postulated by Mr. Pache, is taken away from the earth, we get the following
situation:
In Rev 7,9 John sees a great multitude in heaven standing before the throne and before the Lamb:
A great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues
Rev 7,9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great
multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were
in their hands; Rev 7, 9;
This uncountable multitude are undoubtedly Christians – otherwise they would not be
clothed in white robes, which they have purified in the blood of the Lamb, as we read below. And the
elder subsequently tells John about them in Rev 7,14:
These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7,13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These
who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 7,14 I said
to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out
of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the
Lamb. 7,15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and
night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. Rev 7,
13-15;
So these are Christian believers who come out of the Great Tribulation.
And they are now standing here in heaven before the throne of God, although at this time the
congregation, to whom they must after all as Christians undoubtedly belong, has already in Mr.
Pache’s view been raptured long since, namely before the Great Tribulation. And this of course
suggests the following questions:
1. How and when could these believers have arrived in heaven, if not at
the Rapture of the congregation immediately after the
tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation, out of which, after all,
we are told that they have just come? – and
2. Even if the Holy Spirit – as Mr. Pache thinks – should have been taken
away from the earth with the congregation before the tribulation, would our Lord have left these
brethren, in their most difficult time – before their death in the Great Tribulation – without the
spiritual support and comfort of the Holy Spirit on earth?
This is completely unthinkable and altogether absurd. And if Mr. Pache first
advances the view that "the congregation is the temple of the Holy Spirit. (...) So if the
congregation is once raptured, the Holy Spirit no longer has a dwelling place on earth", he then
ends up by contradicting himself again when he opines that the Holy Spirit "will continue to work,
even after the Rapture of the congregation, in people of good will". What is more, the whole
argument after all only applies in relation to 2The 2,7, namely "he who now restrains";
the question of "what restrains", as formulated in 2The 2,6, Mr. Pache has failed to
address.
Conclusion
According to 2The 2,8, the man of lawlessness – the first Antichrist, will be annihilated by the
Lord Jesus by his appearance, through the coming of the Lord. And as Paul says at the beginning of
these statements, in 2The 2,1, this coming is the Second Coming of the Lord for the Rapture of the
faithful. So if the Antichrist, on the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus for the Rapture, will be
killed by him, this Antichrist must previously have been living and ruling on earth. And this
supplies the scriptural proof that the Second Coming of the Lord and the Rapture will take place
only "immediately after the tribulation of those
days" (Mt 24,29)
that is, after the first five judgments of the seals in
the Great Tribulation.
The beginning of the birth pangs: The tribulation of those days – Seal #1: The man of lawlessness 6: Second coming of the Lord, rapture | |||||||
< 1st seal > (Rev 6:1-2;) White horse: rider has a bow. A crown is given to him, he goes out conquering and to conquer. |
< 2nd seal > (Rev 6:3-4;) Red horse: takes peace from the earth. A great sword is given to him, men slay one another |
< 3rd seal > (Rev 6:5-6;) Black horse: a pair of scales in his hand, wheat, and barley expensive but oil and wine not damaged. |
< 4th seal > (Rev 6:7-8;) Ashen horse: Death, and Hades follow. Authority over 1/4 of the earth, wild beasts, famine, pestilence |
< 5th seal > (Rev 6:9-11;) Underneath of the altar: martyrs call for judgment. They wear a white robe, rest until their brethren are killed too |
< 6th
seal > (Rev 6:12-17;) Great earthquake: sun is black, moon is like blood, stars fall, sky is rolled up, mountains, islands moved |
a6th sel |
< 7th> seal > (Rev 8:1-6;) Silence in heaven 1/2 hour Incense on the altar 7 angels with 7 trumpets thunder, sounds, lightning |
The day of the LORD: The two witnesses of God
prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days clothed in sackcloth (?) |
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< 1st trumpet > (Rev 8:7;) Hail, fire, mixed with blood 1/3 of the earth burned up 1/3 of the trees burned up all green grass burned up |
< 2nd trumpet > (Rev 8:8-9;) Mountain burning falls into sea, 1/3 of the sea blood 1/3 of sea-creatures died 1/3 of ships destroyed |
< 3rd trumpet > (Rev 8:10-11;) Torch-star from heaven 1/3 of rivers wormwood 1/3 of springs worm- wood, many men died. |
< 4th trumpet > (Rev 8:12-13;) Sun, moon, stars: 1/3 of them darkened for 1/3 of the day and 1/3 of the night |
< 5th trumpet / 1 woe
> (Rev 9:1-12;) Star with the key of the pit: smoke darkens the sun, locusts hurt only the men without the seal for 5 months. |
< 6th trumpet / 2 woe
> (Rev 9:13-21;) Angels from Euphrates: fire smoke and brimstone killed 1/3 of mankind, the rest of mankind did not repent. |
a6th trp |
< 7th trumpet / 3 woe
> (Rev 11:15-19;) World’s kingdom is God’s. God’s wrath has come. Time for judging the dead. Thunder, sounds, lightning |
The day of the wrath of God: The
dominion of the demonic Antichrist / Death of the 2 witnesses / The nations tread
Jerusalem under foot |
<a7th trp> |
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< 1st bowl > (Rev 16:1-2;) Poured out on the earth: a loathsome, malignant sore on people who had the mark of the beast. |
< 2nd bowl > (Rev 16:3;) Poured out into the sea: becomes blood like that of a dead man, every living thing in the sea died. |
< 3rd bowl > (Rev 16:4-7;) Into rivers and springs: the waters became blood. They poured out blood of saints: they now have blood to drink |
< 4th bowl > (Rev 16:8-9;) Poured out upon the sun: men scorched with heath they blasphemed the name of God and did not repent. |
< 5th bowl > (Rev 16:10-11;) On the throne of beast: kingdom became darkened, men have pain blasphemed God and did not repent. |
< 6th bowl > (Rev 16:12;) On the river Euphrates: its water was dried up so the way is prepared for the kings from the east. |
a6th bwl |
< 7th bowl > (Rev 16:17-21;) Lightning, sounds, thunder great earthquake as never before, no islands, no mountains |
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The returned Antichrist: death of the two
witnesses |
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a6th sel after 6th seal (Rev 7:1-17;) No harm to earth, sea trees, until the 144’000 are sealed. Those out of the Great Tribulation before the throne. The Lamb will guide them to springs of water of live God will wipe every tear from their eyes |
a6th trp after 6th trumpet (Rev 10:1-11; 11:1-14;) A mighty angel in a cloud. At the sound of the 7th trumpet the mystery of God is finished. There will be delay no longer. The two witnesses will be killed by the beast Earthquake in Jerusalem |
a7th trp after 7th trumpet (Rev 12:1-17; 13:1-18; 14:1-20; 15:1-8;) The woman and the dragon, the fall of Satan and his angels. The beast out of the sea overcomes the saints. Antichrist and false prophet: the dominion of the two beasts. The Lamb and the 144’000 standing on Mount Zion. Three angels: gospel, judgment has come, Babylon is fallen. Blessed who die Beginning of the judgment, the Son of Man reaps the earth. Those who had been victorious over the beast and its image sing Moses’ song The 7 angels with the 7 bowls of the wrath of God. No one was able to enter the temple until the 7 plagues were finished. |
a6th bwl after 6th bowl (Rev 16:13-16;) Satan, Antichrist and false prophet send spirits of demons performing signs to the kings of the whole world to gather them together for the war on the great Day of God to the place which is called Armageddon. |
a7th bwl
after 7th bowl (Rev 17:1-18; 18:1-24;) The fall of Babylon (Rev 19:1-21; 20:1-15;) Battle Armageddon Antichrist false prophet in lake of fire
Judgment, 1st Resurrection
Last fight, Last Judgment (Rev 21:1-27; 22:1-21;) The New Creation |
(See also Discourse 65: "Why the Rapture is to be placed
at the sixth seal, before the day of the wrath of God.")
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We have already seen that at the end of the Great Tribulation Jesus Christ will appear with his
saints on the Mount of Olives to judge the world (Zech 14,4-5). This is only possible for the
saints if they have been raptured into heaven previously.
The Tribulation of those days comes to an end with the fifth seal (Rev 6,9-11)! Immediately
after that, with the sixth seal (Rev 6,12-17, Mt 24,29-31, Zech 12,10-12), the Second Coming of the
Lord and the Rapture occur.
The passage quoted above (Zech 14,3-5) describes the battle of Armageddon, where the demonic
Antichrist and the earthly kings who are in league with him, with their hosts, fight against the
Lord Jesus and his heavenly hosts together with the called, elect and faithful Christians. In Rev
16,13-16 (the sixth plague of the bowls), the demonic Antichrist assembles his hosts in Armageddon.
In Rev 17,14 this battle is announced, and it then takes place immediately before the First
Resurrection of the martyrs, in Rev 19,11 to 20,3.
Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations.
Zech 14,3 Then the LORD will go forth
and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle. 14,4
In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of
Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from
east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move
toward the north and the other half toward the south. 14,5 You will flee by the
valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes,
you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king
of Judah. Then the LORD, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him! Zech
14, 3- 5;
The LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem.
Zech 14,12 Now this will be the
plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war
against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and
their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth.
14,13 It will come about in that day that a great panic from the LORD will fall
on them; and they will seize one another’s hand, and the hand of one will be
lifted against the hand of another. 14,14 Judah also will fight at Jerusalem;
and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be gathered, gold and silver
and garments in great abundance.
14,15 So also like this plague will be the plague on the horse, the mule, the
camel, the donkey and all the cattle that will be in those camps. 14,16 Then it
will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against
Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of
hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths. Zech 14,12-16;
Between these two events – the Rapture and the battle of Armageddon – there is a time lapse that
probably amounts to a number of years. This means that at the time of Armageddon these "called,
elect and faithful Christians" have already long since been raptured –
immediately after the tribulation of those days in the Great
Tribulation – and are now in heaven.
Conclusion
Christ comes at the end of the Great Tribulation for the Rapture of his faithful. Then comes
the Day of the Lord and of the Wrath of God, with the plagues of the trumpets and the bowls, and
only at the end of the Day of the Lord the battle of Armageddon takes place. Here we again
see the fatal consequences of an interpretation that fails to distinguish between the Great
Tribulation and the Day of the Lord. It is as if someone, in talking about the world wars of the
last century, were to mix up the first and second World Wars and assert that the Second World War
was sparked off by the murder of the Austrian Crown Prince Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, and that
Hitler then attacked Poland by way of retaliation.
(See also Table 14: "The Great Tribulation – classified
by events.")
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We can see that at the beginning of the Kingdom of a Thousand Years only the martyrs will be
raised from the dead who have refused to worship the Antichrist in the Great Tribulation (Rev
20,4-6). And yet the faithful of all times have a part in the First Resurrection, live and reign
with Christ (Jn 5,28-29). But when did these faithful rise from the dead, if not at the Rapture
of the congregation before the Great Tribulation?
It is correct that the text of Rev 20,4 only speaks of martyrs:
Who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God.
Rev 20,4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment
was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their
testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast
or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came
to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 20,5 The rest of the dead did not come to
life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20, 4- 5;
First of all, these martyrs of the First Resurrection will not be raised from the
dead here, but rise in the resurrection. This is a wholly different process.
(See also Chapter 12: "The
Resurrection – Raising from the dead and Resurrection.")
The view that "the faithful of all time have a part in the First Resurrection, to
live and reign with Christ" evidently rests on a mistaken understanding of this scriptural
passage. There is no reference here to the faithful generally, but only to martyrs. And not just the
martyrs who have "refused to worship the Antichrist", but all martyrs of all times.
And these are not raised from the dead here either, but "come to life" – rise in
the resurrection.
Briefly to explain: the dead believers are raised from the dead at different
times (as the firstfruits Jesus 1Cor 15:20-28). After being raised from the
dead, people have a spirit body. With this they will be taken to heaven to be
judged by God. Only then does the resurrection take place with a resurrection
body with which these people (e.g. the martyrs) can also live and work on earth.
(See also Chapter 12: "The Resurrection.")
The following martyrs will come alive from heaven to earth during the First
Resurrection:
1. First the martyrs of the Old Covenant (the last of whom was John
the Baptist) who were killed for the sake of the "word of God" (Rev 6,9), which they proclaimed
to the people of Israel and its sanctimonious kings.
2. Then the martyrs of the New Covenant, who were thrown to the
hungry lions under Nero or suffered other fates because of their "testimony of Jesus" (Rev
1,2.9), or who later were burned at the stake by the Roman Catholic Inquisition.
3. And lastly those who have overcome under the dominion of the
beast, the demonic Antichrist – those who "did not worship the beast and the image of the beast
and had not received the mark on their hand or forehead" and so were put to death by the image of
the beast.
And as we can read at the start of this verse, above in Rev
20,4, they are already all in heaven and
standing before the judgment seat, and they then come to life, i.e. they return to earth again in
the First Resurrection as priests of God, to rule with Christ in the Millennial Kingdom.
They will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Rev 20,5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the
thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 20,6 Blessed and holy
is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power,
but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. Rev
20, 5- 6;
As we can see, here Mr. Pache confuses the resurrection of the martyrs of all times
in the First Resurrection with the raising from the dead and Rapture of the faithful in Christ at
the Second Coming of the Lord. And this again is the result of mixing up the Tribulation
of those days (the
dominion of the lawless one) with the Day of the Wrath of God (the dominion of the beast from the
sea). If we leave these events where they are actually found in Revelation – namely, the Tribulation
of those days at the start of the events of the Last Days (Rev 6,1-11) and the dominion of the beast
after the seventh trumpet (Rev 13,1-18ff) – it is easy to recognize that the faithful from the
Rapture have been in heaven long since, whereas the martyrs who, under the dominion of the beast,
refuse to worship this Antichrist (Rev 13,10; 14,12-13) are still on earth.
So irrespective of whether you want to place the Rapture before or within the Great Tribulation, the
faithful who are raptured will long since have been in heaven at the time of the First Resurrection
of the martyrs. And it is the same with the uncountable multitude (Rev 7,9) from the Great
Tribulation. So we must have to do here with hundreds of millions of people. On the view that these
faithful were all to be priests and kings in the Millennium, we could perhaps picture so many people
on earth as priests, but if we had hundreds of millions of kings, they would surely be short of
subjects. No – the faithful who have been raised from the dead and raptured are joined to those
living faithful coming out of the tribulation. Together they stand before the throne of God and serve him day and
night in his temple; and he who sits upon the throne shall spread his tabernacle over them (Rev
7,15). Only the martyrs among them will come to life again at the First Resurrection, together with
the martyrs of all times, and reign with the Lord on earth in the Millennium.
But we find a mention of the raising from the dead and Rapture of the faithful first in Matthew (Mt
24,31) -
Mt 24,31 "And He will send forth His angels with a great
trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to
the other. Mt 24,31;
- and then again, in great detail, in Paul’s first epistle to the Thessalonians:
We will be caught up together in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
1The 4,15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we
who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen
asleep. 4,16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the
archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 4,17 Then we who
are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air,
and so we shall always be with the Lord. 1The 4,15-17;
The scriptural passage cited by Mr. Pache as an argument in this connection, Jn
5,28-29, does not therefore refer to the First Resurrection of the martyrs in Rev 20,4 either, where
only these martyrs come to life in order to reign with Christ: here all who are in the tombs, that
is to say, all people who have ever died, will hear the voice of the Son of God and will come forth.
Who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
Jn 5,28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in
which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 5,29 and will come forth; those
who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a
resurrection of judgment. Jn 5,28-29;
So it is this resurrection, and these are those dead, of whom it is written in Rev 20,5, in connection with the First Resurrection of the martyrs: "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed." What we have in Jn 5,28-29, then, is a prophecy of the General Resurrection and Last Judgment at the end of the world.
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Rev 20,11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat
upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 20,12 And
I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and
another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things
which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 20,13 And the sea gave up the dead
which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged,
every one of them according to their deeds. 20,14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of
fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 20,15 And if anyone’s name was not found
written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Rev 20.11-15;
Conclusion
Here we have found a case of total misinformation about the different resurrections. On the one hand
the raising from the dead and Rapture of the faithful at the Second Coming of the Lord
immediately after the tribulation of those days in the Great Tribulation is confused with the First Resurrection of the martyrs before the Millennium; and
on the other, this same First Resurrection is confused with the General Resurrection at the end of
the world and the Last Judgment.
(See also Discourse 07: "The Rapture and the First
Resurrection: a single event?")
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Furthermore, before the resurrection of the martyrs from the Great Tribulation John sees people
sitting on thrones who have been given authority to judge (Rev 20,4). Who are these judges? (in
the plural!). There is only one sovereign judge, Jesus Christ, to whom all judgment is given (Jn
5,22-27). But the Lord has deemed it good to allow his faithful to judge the world with him. "Or
do you not know that the saints will judge the world?" (1Cor 6,2-3). So the judges who, even
before the resurrection of the martyrs from the Great Tribulation take their seats on those
thrones, are the saints. If they had lived through this terrible time, they would also have been
martyrs. But if at this point in time they are in eternal life, this proves yet again that they
have been raptured before the Great Tribulation.
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them.
Rev 20,4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was
given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of
Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and
had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned
with Christ for a thousand years. Rev 20, 4;
It repeatedly proves astonishing with how little sensitivity or realistic judgment
of their own powers some commentators interpret Scripture. If we consider the above statements, we
can make out the following implications:
The faithful referred to by Mr. Pache above, who have lead a pleasant life in every respect, have
never suffered any attack on grounds of their faith, have never had the strength of their faith put
to the test and at the end of their life have died an ordinary death, will – in the opinion of Mr.
Pache – be given power as judges, will sit on thrones in heaven and judge those martyrs who because
they persevered in the faith have been persecuted, tortured and finally put to death. To take the
absurdity of these statements to a ne plus ultra, he goes on even to assert that they are
able to be judges for the very reason that they have not had to undergo these terrible times
of trial.
Quite apart from the fact that this is to see the absolute justice of God as a quantité
négligeable, the question suggests itself how these saints are going to pronounce a righteous
judgment about something that they themselves have never experienced in their lives. The way some
interpreters attempt to ascribe to the congregation all the functions and positions ever imaginable
leads repeatedly to confusion, because no one knows any longer what actually applies to the
congregation and what does not.
But then Mr. Pache claims here that the congregation will judge the martyrs in the judgment before
the First Resurrection (Rev 20,4) – the martyrs who then, at this judgment, are found worthy to
reign with Christ on earth for a thousand years. So it is now quite evident that those who are
judging here – the congregation, supposedly – cannot themselves be affected by this judgment with a
view to ruling on earth. That would be a shocking case of partiality, unthinkable even in earthly
courts.
But because this would mean excluding the congregation from "reigning" in the Millennium, Argument
8 makes haste to explain that not just the martyrs, but also the congregation will have
a part in this First Resurrection "to live and reign with Christ". This however results in a
situation where the congregation would have to function as its own judge. A clear demonstration that
the commentators have fallen victim to a certain kind of rapaciousness! – in basically laying claim
to all possible options, without any consideration either of the fundamental moral principles of
human action, or of the impossibility of reconciling them.
Conclusion
Here again we find a confusion between the raising from the dead for the Rapture and the First
Resurrection. In actual fact, the congregation is not a judge here – the saints who will act as
judges are more likely to be the 24 elders who are sitting on their thrones – nor will it have a
part in the First Resurrection or reign with Christ in the Millennium. This is a task that has been
exclusively reserved by God for the martyrs of all times.
(See also Discourse 72: "Who are the twenty-four
elders in the Revelation of John?")
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Jesus says: "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were
drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building; but on
the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them
all. It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed ... Remember Lot’s
wife. ... I tell you, on that night there will be two men in one bed; one will be taken, and the
other will be left" (Lk. 17,28-29.30.32.34). Before the annihilation of Sodom, the angel of
destruction made Lot leave the city and showed him a place of refuge. He said to him, "Hurry,
escape there, for I cannot do anything until you arrive there" (Gen 19,22). But Lot’s wife
looked back, and perished along with the ungodly. So immediately after Lot’s departure Sodom was
delivered over to judgment, because there were no longer even ten righteous persons to be found
there. So likewise, after the Rapture of the faithful, there is an insufficiency of spiritual
power left on earth to hold back the punishment. Then the Great Tribulation will break over the
heads of the ungodly and the hypocrites who have delayed to break their ties with the world. "For
the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah" (Mt 24,37). Noah too was
first brought by God to a place of safety before the catastrophe began. All the same, in spite
of this divine protection, he had to go through the waters of the Flood. From this point of
view, it is interesting to compare his experience with that of Enoch. Enoch, who "walked with
God", was taken away from the earth before the judgment (Gen 5,24), and so may stand for a
symbol of the faithful who are raptured while alive, before the Great Tribulation. Noah on the
other hand, preserved by God in the midst of the Flood, would be an indication of the saints (of
Israel and of the nations) who although they must endure the Great Tribulation, have still been
sealed by God. Of these saints John writes: "And I saw another angel ... saying, "Do not
harm the earth or the sea of the trees, until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on
their foreheads" (Rev 7,2-3).
Because the text from Luke that Mr. Pache cites above is particularly important for
the interpretation of the Rapture, we should look at the entire context of this scriptural passage:
Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.
Lk 17,22 And He said to the disciples, "The days will come when
you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 17,23 "They
will say to you, ‘Look there! Look here!’ Do not go away, and do not run after them. 17,24 "For
just like the lightning, when it flashes out of one part of the sky, shines to the other part of the
sky, so will the Son of Man be in His day. 17,25 "But first He must suffer many things and
be rejected by this generation.
17,26 "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of
the Son of Man: 17,27 they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being
given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them
all.
17,28 "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were
drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building; 17,29 but on
the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them
all. 17,30 "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.
17,31 "On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go
down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back. 17,32
"Remember Lot’s wife
17,33 "Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will
preserve it. 17,34 "I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be
taken and the other will be left. 17,35 "There will be two women grinding at the same place;
one will be taken and the other will be left. 17,36 ["Two men will be in the field; one will be
taken and the other will be left."] 17,37 And answering they said to Him, "Where,
Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be
gathered." Lk 17,22-37;
First of all the Lord foretells a time of trouble for the faithful, and warns them
of the danger of allowing themselves to be led astray by false rumors to the effect that the Son of
Man has come already. And he says, "Do not go away, and do not run after them", for the
appearance of the Son of Man will not take place invisibly or mysteriously, but will be like
lightning that lightens from one end of the heaven to the other – so also the Lord will shine in his
glory on the day when he comes.
And then the Lord compares this day with the days of Noah. Just as the people of those days went on
eating and drinking and suspected no danger, and then all of them apart from Noah and his family
lost their lives in the floods, so too it will be on the day of the Son of Man: they will be eating,
drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, until the Lord comes and picks out and raptures his
faithful from all four quarters of the compass. On the other hand, those who remain behind will not
lose their lives, but will be delivered over to the coming Wrath of God. And as a further pointer to
the way the faithful should conduct themselves, the Lord also compares this day with the days of
Lot. At that time too people went on living for the moment, but when Lot departed from Sodom, they
all lost their lives.
The text that now follows in Lk 17,31 is often seen as a parallel passage to Mt 24,17-18 and Mk
13,14-16. But these statements appear, in the other gospels, in a quite different
context – being connected with the "abomination of desolation", that is to say,
the persecution of Christians in the Great Tribulation, and a hasty flight into the mountains.
And a third text, namely Lk 21,20-24, deals with the third Jewish war in 153 and the expulsion
of the Judeans into all parts of the world.
So whereas Lk 21,23 refers to the "days of
vengeance", for the murder of their Messiah, here, here in Lk 17,22-37 we are clearly concerned
with the Second Coming of the Lord (Lk 17,24.30). Nor is there any mention here of the abomination
of desolation, the Great Tribulation or a flight to the mountains – on the contrary, we have the
impression that the Lord is recommending the faithful here not to take flight, but rather to keep
still and wait it out on the spot, wherever they happen to be.
Lk 17,30 "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of
Man is revealed. 17,31 "On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in
the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn
back. 17,32 "Remember Lot’s wife. 17,33 "Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and
whoever loses his life will preserve it. Lk 17,30-33;
The following two verses, Lk 17,32-33, then strengthen this impression so that it
becomes a certainty. The warning "Remember Lot’s wife" is an indication that on this day, at
this moment, we should not turn to look for what lies behind us – our goods and possessions, our our
lives and physical bodies. And then the Lord’s next statement is even more specific: "Whoever
seeks to keep his life shall lose it, and whoever loses his life shall preserve it." Whoever
attempts flight will be unable to be picked up by the angels; but whoever holds still, though he
loses his physical life, will at the same moment be given a spiritual body and be raptured to the
Lord. And just this is what we then find stated in the following two verses (Lk 17,34-35):
On that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
Lk 17,34 "I tell you, on that night there will be
two men in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. 17,35 "There will be
two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left. Lk 17,34-35;
This statement by the Lord is a confirmation that the Lord here is most definitely
not urging us to take flight. If at the Rapture there will be two men in one bed, or two women
grinding corn, and one will be taken and the other will be left, then quite plainly these two cannot
be trying to escape at this point.
(See also Table 05: "Synopsis of the Lords
eschatological discourses.")
So this is the time of the coming of the Lord and the Rapture of the faithful, as Mt
24,29-31 also describes it. They will indeed lose their earthly existence and their physical bodies
at this moment, but they will not die – instead, as Paul says, they will put on immortality and be
changed "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eyes" (1Cor 15,51-53). And they should have no fear
of this, as the Lord tells them in Lk 17,33. Anyone who tries to escape in order to save his
physical life will in fact lose it. But those who wait it out, having trust in God, will be gathered
and raptured by the angels of the Lord. And then it will indeed be the case that two will be in one
bed or grinding together, and one will be taken and the other left.
When the Lord had finished his explanations, the first reaction of the disciples was to ask, "Where,
Lord?" We recognize the same misunderstanding here as we find in some commentators who suppose
that the congregation should seek out a "place of refuge" for the Rapture. Apart from the fact
that the faithful would be taken away, that there would be a Rapture, the disciples had not
understood any of this. So they were eager to know where it was going to happen, to make sure of
getting to the place in time.
Lk 17, 37 And answering they said to Him, "Where,
Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered."
Lk 17,37;
Two points emerge from the Lord’s answer. On the one hand it looks as if he had not
registered their question at all, but had been speaking of something quite different, in saying "Where
the body (the corpse) is, there also the vultures (eagles) will be gathered". But this was just
the answer that the disciples – and still more the faithful of the Last Days – needed to be given.
It seems that what the Lord wanted to say to them was – Do not imagine that you have to go to a
particular location. When I come, I will send out my angels to gather you in. And just as the
vultures (eagles) instinctively know where the body (corpse) is to be found, so too the angels will
know where you are to be found. So you must wait in a spirit of trust and stillness, and direct your
spiritual gaze not back upon your earthly life, but forward to the life now dawning for you in God’s
eternity.
Conclusion
As we can see from Mr. Pache’s arguments quoted above, this interpretation gets bogged down from
start to finish. First of all the Holy Spirit leaves the world at the Rapture and before the Great
Tribulation. Then he pops up again, because in the Great Tribulation "people of goodwill" become
believers. The 144,000 sealed Israelites of all the twelve tribes of Israel are interpreted as
Israelites "and the nations", because otherwise there would be no way of explaining the
uncountable multitude from the Great Tribulation. And finally too, the brethren are enjoined in the
Last Days to flee from the Rapture rather than waiting it out.
(See also Discourse 38: "What
awaits Christians and Jews on the Second Coming of the Lord?")
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The vocation and election of the congregation is a mystery (Eph 3,3-10) and an entr’acte in
God’s plan for the world. It comes to an end with the mystery of the Rapture (1Cor 15,51),
before the fulfillment of the prophecies relating to Israel resume their course.
Conclusion
Yes, no doubt. But this is an argument for the Rapture as such, not for a Rapture before the Great
Tribulation!
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It strikes us immediately that none of the epistles, which after all are without exception
written for the instruction of the congregation, speaks of the details of the Great Tribulation.
May this not be taken to mean that the congregation will not have to undergo the events of this
time?
Evidently Mr Pache does not include Paul’s second letter to the Thessalonians among
the epistles. There Paul refers, after all, specifically to the time of the apostasy – the Great
Tribulation – and writes of how the man of lawlessness, the first Antichrist, will be revealed, and
of the end of this time, namely on the Second Coming of the Lord.
For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.
2The 2,1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming
of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2,2 that you not be quickly shaken
from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to
the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 2,3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will
not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of
destruction. 2The 2, 1- 3;
The Great Tribulation and the first Antichrist precede the Second Coming of the Lord
for the Rapture. When the Lord comes, the Great Tribulation will be at an end, and he will
annihilate the lawless one, the first Antichrist.
That lawless one whom the Lord will bring to an end by the appearance of His coming.
2The 2,6 And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he
will be revealed. 2,7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains
will do so until he has retired. 2,8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will
slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 2,9 that
is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false
wonders, 2,10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not
receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 2The 2, 6-10;
Conclusion
In his second letter (epistle) to the congregation in Thessalonica, Paul describes the Great
Tribulation in fairly precise detail
o Start: revelation of lawlessness in the world
o Content: acts of power and signs, lying wonders and every kind of
unrighteous deceit
o End: with the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering
together with him.
And if Mr. Pache can write above that "none of the epistles, which after all are
without exception written for the instruction of the congregation, speaks of the details of the
Great Tribulation", he clearly has not read this epistle of Paul’s.
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According to chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation, which are evidently (alongside other possible
applications) designed to give a wide overview of the congregation’s phases of development, the
final state of the congregation on earth, calling itself a church, is represented by Laodicea -
i.e., it is characterized by lukewarmness, regression and apostasy. It shows none of the
features of a persecuted but faithful church.
Among the Pretribulationists a supposedly chronological arrangement of the letters
to the churches is popular, with a view to placing the last congregation, Laodicea, in the Great
Tribulation and interpreting the congregation immediately preceding, Philadelphia, as the
congregation before the Great Tribulation, which supposedly experiences the Rapture. But in fact
there is no denomination, whatever its stamp, that would not like to see itself as "Philadelphia".
If we look at the promises made to Philadelphia in Rev 3,7-13, it is immediately clear why.
Conclusion
On closer analysis, the seven letters to the churches are not allocated to any particular areas of
time or place. Plainly they are quite concrete orientation tools for each individual member of the
faithful worldwide, in which he can recognize the characteristics of his own faith and the
associated strengths and weaknesses. The result of any individual and self-critical examination
should be the starting point for reducing our weaknesses if possible, and building on our strengths,
or at least keeping them at the same level. Every believing Christian is thus a member of one of
these seven virtual congregations, independent of place and time, which in their totality – from
their coming into being until the Second Coming of the Lord – constitute the congregation of Christ
on earth.
(See also Excursus 02: "The seven letters to the
churches.")
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Before the great judgments of Revelation, we see the twenty-four elders in heaven who, it seems,
stand for the redeemed from the Old and New Covenants. These are sitting (i.e. they have been
stationed) before the throne of God, crowned and transfigured (Rev 4).
Yet another symbol of the congregation! But this, after all, is only to be expected,
seeing that the text talks about thrones and crowns. And here again, naturally, we find a confusion
of terms. In Rev 7,9 John sees a great multitude that no one could count, from all nations and
languages, in heaven before the throne of God. These are the redeemed who come from the Great
Tribulation, and so without doubt they must be a part of the raptured congregation of all times -
the redeemed, then, as Mr. Pache puts it above. But at the same time John also sees, in verse
11, the 24 elders, who fall on their faces before the throne and worship along with the four living
creatures. So if the 24 elders were really the congregation of the redeemed, as Mr. Pache supposes
in his above comments, then we would have the somewhat unusual situation here of the congregation
appearing in duplicate:
o first as the uncountable multitude from all nations who stand
before the throne and cry out with a loud voice, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and
to the Lamb";
o and at the same time as the 24 elders who fall on their faces
before the throne and answer Amen.
A great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues
Rev 7,9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great
multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were
in their hands; 7,10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits
on the throne, and to the Lamb." 7,11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and
around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the
throne and worshiped God, 7,12 saying, "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom and
thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen." Rev 7, 9-12;
As if this were not enough, in the next verse one of the 24 elders – one of the "redeemed",
according to Mr. Pache – explains to John that this great multitude is made up of the redeemed from
the Great Tribulation. Here the question suggests itself which redeemed are actually to be
identified with whom.
Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation".
Rev 7,13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me,
"These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?"
7,14 I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones
who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in
the blood of the Lamb. 7,15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they
serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle
over them. Rev 7,13-15;
Conclusion
From the above analysis it is plain that the 24 elders cannot be a symbol of the congregation, as
Mr. Pache thinks. The congregation is the body of Christ – he is the head, we are the limbs; he is
the master, and we are the brothers. So the 24 elders cannot be used to justify a pre-tribulation
Rapture, in any form whatsoever.
See also Discourse 72: "Who are the twenty-four
elders in the Revelation of John?")
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The apostle John sees in a vision how a woman gives birth to a male child who is to rule all the
nations with a rod of iron. Satan, the dragon, stands before her, waiting to devour the child;
but the child is caught up to God and to his throne. The woman flees to the wilderness, pursued
by the dragon but protected by God, for just the amount of time that the Great Tribulation
lasts, namely one thousand two hundred and sixty days (Rev 12,4-6.13-17). The woman seems to be
the people of God of all times, which has given the world the Messiah, then the congregation and
lastly the saints of the Great Tribulation. So Christ’s heel may have been bruised by Satan, but
he has crushed the serpent’s head and has been raised to glory at the right hand of God. Thence
He will come again to rule the nations with an iron scepter (Ps 2,8). Also the congregation is
represented by the child: though the enemy lies in wait for it, it will be raptured to God and
to his throne immediately following the birth (i.e. when it has reached its full complement),
and the Lord will give it full authority to rule the nations with an iron rod together with him
(Rev 2,26-27). Immediately after the Rapture, the three and a half years of the Tribulation
begin. During this time the dragon makes war in his rage on "the rest of her offspring, who
keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus" (12,17), i.e. those of Israel
and the nations who convert to the Lord under the dominion of the Antichrist.
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman.
Rev 12,1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed
with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 12,2 and she was
with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
12,3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and
ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. 12,4 And his tail swept away a third of the stars
of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to
give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.
12,5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of
iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 12,6 Then the woman fled into the
wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one
thousand two hundred and sixty days.
12,7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the
dragon and his angels fought, 12,8 but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for
them in heaven. 12,9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is
called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world-he was thrown down to the earth,
and his angels were thrown down with him. Rev 12, 1- 9;
First a short reference to verse 1. There it says in some
translations: "a woman in heaven". The original Greek text, however, is
"en tw ouranw". And the noun "ouranwz",
(ouranos), is comparable to the English "sky", whereas the English "heaven" is
called in Greek "paradeisoz", (παράδεισοs)
/ paradise.
So it is the earthly, visible sky (ouranos) which is meant here and not that
invisible heaven of our heavenly Father. And therefore it must also read here:
"a woman in the sky" and not "a woman in heaven", as is often
wrongly quoted, especially by the Catholic Church, which interprets this woman
as the Catholic "Mary".
Some interpreters see in the text of Rev 12,1-2 also the "congregation of Jesus Christ",
the "people of God of all times" or the "worldwide Christian congregation". As a
justification for this, it is frequently pointed out that it was the congregation who – in a
spiritual sense – gave birth to the "male child" (Rev 12,5), in other words Jesus Christ.
It appears, though, that this – whether we understand it in a spiritual sense or not – is purely and
simply an inversion of the temporal sequence. It was not the congregation that "gave birth to"
Jesus Christ, rather the reverse is true – it was Jesus Christ who, through the apostles, brought
the congregation into the world. By prematurely and incorrectly identifying the "woman" of Rev
12,1-2 as the origin of the congregation, such a view evidently overlooks the fact that we find a
quite concrete indication in Scripture of the congregation of Christ and its symbols.
In Rev 1,12-13 John sees the Son of Man, Jesus Christ, standing in the midst of seven golden
lampstands, holding in his hand seven stars.
The seven golden lampstands and the seven stars.
Rev 1,12 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me.
And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands; 1,13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw
one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with
a golden sash. 1,14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were
like a flame of fire.1,15 His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a
furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters.1,16 In His right hand He held seven
stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining
in its strength. Rev 1,12-16;
The symbolism of the seven golden lampstands and the seven stars in the hand of the Son of Man is then explained in Rev 1,20:
The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
Rev 1,20 "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you
saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the
seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches .Rev 1,20;
So it is the seven stars in the right hand of the Lord, and the seven golden
lampstands, which represent the congregation of Jesus Christ and so the totality of Christian
believers – and not the "crown of twelve stars" on the head of the "woman" in Rev 12,1-2.
But who actually is this "woman" in Rev 12,1-2? If we proceed according to the tried and tested
method of serious exegesis and assume that Scripture can only be interpreted on the basis of
Scripture, we must start from those statements that find clear confirmation in Scripture. In our
case, this is the son to whom the woman gives birth in Rev 12,5.
And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron.
Rev 12,5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to
rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
Rev 12, 5;
This son who is to "rule all the nations with an iron rod" is a reference that
looks back to Ps 2,6-9:
You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.
Ps 2,6 "But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My
holy mountain." 2,7 "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You
are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 2,8 Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your
inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession. 2,9 You shall break them with a
rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.’" Ps 2, 6- 9;
Now as no one, surely, is going to have any doubt that this promise in the psalms
refers to the Lord Jesus, the similar phrasing of the text here gives us every ground for taking
this male child of Rev 12,5 to be Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It follows that, as has been said
earlier, the woman who gives birth to him cannot be the congregation – since after all, as the
congregation, we are the successors and spiritual descendants of the Lord, and not his predecessors.
But if we now read the first chapter of Matthew, the descent of the Lord is not difficult to
discern. He descends, naturally, from the people of Israel, and so the woman in heaven is also to be
identified as the people of Israel. A further confirmation of this view is to be seen in the crown
of twelve stars on her head.
A woman on her head a crown of twelve stars.
Rev 12,1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the
sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 12,2 and she was
with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth. Rev 12, 1- 2;
The twelve stars here stand for the twelve tribes of Israel. The woman "cried out,
being in labor and in pain to give birth". And here again it follows that this can only be a
reference to the (spiritual) birth of the Son of God.
The "birth pangs" of the woman – that is to say, of the people of Israel – make sense when we
contemplate, in the light of the gospels, what a reluctant welcome this Jesus of Nazareth met with
from the religious and political leaders of the Israel of his day.
Conclusion
Here again the symbolism, which points quite clearly to Israel as the woman in heaven, has been
twisted to refer to the congregation. But as if this were not enough, the "male child" is also
explained as being the congregation of all times. It is clearly an ineradicable characteristic of
some commentators to take any kind of symbolism that seems in the least way significant, and
commandeer it for the congregation.
So if we now analyze this text in Rev 12,1-9 in greater detail, we can also see this has nothing to
do with the events of the Last Days – rather the birth of the child, the flight of the woman into
the wilderness and the battle in heaven between Michael and the dragon are "factual reports" of
events at the beginning of our chronological reckoning, during the time of our Lord’s life on earth.
(See also Excursus 10: "The woman in heaven.")
(Texts in a black frame are quotations from visitors to this site or from other authors.)
John places the marriage of the lamb, for which "His wife has made herself ready", before
the battle of Armageddon. "And it was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and
clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints" (Rev 19,7-8). It appears that
these preparations for her putting on the garment of righteousness are the consequence of the
decision passed before the judgment seat of Christ immediately after the Rapture (2Cor 5,10;
1Cor 3,10-15). Only after this judgment is the congregation transfigured and united with its
heavenly Bridegroom, to come down from heaven at His side hereafter to judge and rule the earth
with Him.
So as to get a better overview of these statements, let us first of all look at the
text:
The marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.
Rev 19,6 Then I heard something like the voice of a great multitude
and like the sound of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, saying,
"Hallelujah! For the Lord our God, the Almighty, reigns. 19,7 "Let us rejoice and be glad
and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself
ready." 19,8 It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the
fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. 19,9 Then he said to me, "Write, ‘Blessed
are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’" And he said to me,
"These are true words of God." Rev 19, 6- 9;
(See also Chapter 063: The Return of the Lord – part 3: "The
marriage of the Lamb.")
As Mr. Pache quite correctly states above, John sees this marriage as taking place
before the battle of Armageddon. This, however, is a point in time in the chronological sequence of
Revelation that comes well after the Rapture, whether we want to see the latter as occurring before
or after the Great Tribulation – and even if we avoid confusing the Great Tribulation with the
dominion of the demonic Antichrist. The statement that the congregation must appear for judgment,
following the Rapture, before the judgment seat of (2Cor 5,10; 1Cor 3,10-15) is likewise correct.
Only the assumption that the congregation is the Bride of Christ is – as in a good many other
commentators – quite wrong. As the congregation, we seem to become more and more like a Moloch,
attributing all the promises of salvation exclusively to ourselves. Many of the promises – those
made to Israel, for instance – are transferred by uncritical commentators to the congregation free
of charge. It starts with the congregation’s being characterized as the body of Christ (the only
point that is correct). But then the congregation is also understood as being represented by
- the rulers and kings of the Millennium in Rev 20,4-6 (see Argument
8)
- the judges of the martyrs in Rev 20,4 (see Argument
9)
- the 24 elders of Rev 4,10 (see Argument 14)
- the woman in heaven of Rev 12,1-17 (see Argument
15)
- the male child who is to rule all the nations with an iron rod in Rev
12,1-17 (see Argument 15)
- the 144,000 who have been sealed in Rev 7,1-8 (even though these are
explicitly stated to be Israelites!)
- the great multitude in Rev 7,9-17 (which only stands for those who come
out of the tribulation)
- and in defiance of all logic, the congregation is even taken by some
commentators to be both the Bride and also the Bridegroom (the body of Christ).
So it is hardly surprising if, in view of this omnipresence of the congregation, a
certain elitist self-conceit should creep in among some of the brethren. But if we hope to increase
the glory and the greatness of the congregation in heaven, it is essential that we should take to
heart the counsel of our Lord, who recommends to us in Mt 18,1-5 the exact opposite of the attitude
that we find some preachers and leaders of the congregation trying to inculcate in the brethren.
Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 18,1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and said,
"Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 18,2 And He called a child to Himself
and set him before them, 18,3 and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and
become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. 18,4 "Whoever then humbles
himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 18,5 "And whoever
receives one such child in My name receives Me; Mt 18, 1- 5;
We find confirmation in the Old Testament, in the prophet Hosea, that the
congregation cannot be the Bride:
I will betroth you to Me forever; I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in justice, In lovingkindness and in compassion.
Hos 2,15 "Then I will give her her vineyards from there, And
the valley of Achor as a door of hope. And she will sing there as in the days of her youth, As in
the day when she came up from the land of Egypt. 2,16 "It will come about in that
day," declares the LORD, "That you will call Me my man and will no longer call Me
Baali., 2,17 "For I will remove the names of the Baals from her mouth, So that they will be
mentioned by their names no more. 2,18 "In that day I will also make a covenant for them With
the beasts of the field, The birds of the sky And the creeping things of the ground. And I will
abolish the bow, the sword and war from the land, And will make them lie down in safety.
2,19 "I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, I will betroth you to Me in righteousness
and in justice, In lovingkindness and in compassion, 2,20 And I will betroth you to Me in
faithfulness. Then you will know the LORD. Hos 2,15-20;
Here God speaks in person, through the mouth of the prophet Hosea, to Israel,
and promises her in Hos 2,21: "I will betroth you to Me forever". And seeing that God cannot be
a bigamist, there is just this one bride – namely, the bride coming from the people of Israel. These
are the 144,000 who are sealed in the Last Days, 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel,
who according to Rev 14:4-5 "have not been defiled with women" and "follow the Lamb wherever He
goes".
They have been "purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb". This
bride has not changed through all the ages. The wedding guests are different, certainly – instead of
the Israelites of the Old Covenant, the congregation of the New Covenant has now been invited as
wedding guests. This also appears from the relevant text in Mt 22,8-13:
And the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests.
Mt 22,8 "Then he said to his slaves, ‘The wedding is ready, but
those who were invited were not worthy. 22,9 Go therefore to the main highways, and as many
as you find there, invite to the wedding feast.’ 22,10 "Those slaves went out into the
streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled
with dinner guests. 22,11 "But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw
a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 22,12 and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did
you come in here without wedding clothes?’ And the man was speechless. 22,13 "Then the
king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that
place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’. Mt 22, 8-13;
(See also Discourse 49: "The elect of Mt 24,31:
Christian congregation of the Last Days or Israelites?")
The apostles too – the founding fathers of the congregation – are described as "wedding
guests" (attendants) by the Lord himself.
But Your disciples do not fast – the attendants of the bridegroom cannot mourn.
Mt 9,14 Then the disciples of John came to Him, asking, "Why do
we and the Pharisees fast, but Your disciples do not fast?" 9,15 And Jesus said to them,
"The attendants of the bridegroom (Greek:
sons of the bridal chamber = Wedding guests) cannot mourn as long as the bridegroom is
with them, can they? But the days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and
then they will fast. Mt 9,14-15;
And although the elder says to John in Rev 19,9, "Blessed are those who are invited
to the marriage supper of the Lamb", we, as the congregation, evidently think that to be a wedding
guest is much too modest. We have to be the Bride. Or the woman in heaven. Or the 24 elders. Or the
144,000 who have been sealed – which is particularly perfidious, because these 12,000 from each of
the 12 tribes of Israel do actually stand for the real bride. Or the body of Christ – which is the
only correct attribution.
We should not be envious of Israel, seeing that after all we have the privilege, as the
congregation, of being the first in heaven with the Lord, whereas Israel must wait for this for
another thousand years.
So the last shall be first, and the first last.
Mt 20, 1 ‘Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is
my own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous?’ 20,16 "So the last shall be first,
and the first last." Mt 20,15-16;
(See also Discourse 38: "What awaits Christians
and Jews on the Second Coming of the Lord?")
Conclusion
The argument is in principle correct, only the person referred to is not the congregation but the
Bride of the Lamb, and she is, according to Scripture, the 144,000 sealed Israelites of the Last
Days. And those too who "come down from heaven at his side hereafter to judge and rule the earth
with him" are not the totality of the faithful, but only the martyrs of all times (see Argument
8). For the other members of the congregation, after the Rapture their path to salvation
has reached its goal. They are before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple.
(See also Discourse 15: "Is the
congregation the Bride of Christ?")
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If the Rapture were to take place only after the Tribulation, one might wonder who of the
faithful would remain alive, to be the subjects in the Kingdom of a Thousand Years. It is
expressly stated that the entire Jewish people will convert to Jesus Christ in the fire of
purification (Zech 12,10; 13,8-9). If the converted Jews were to have been raptured along with
the congregation, then none of them would remain on earth to play the role promised them in the
prophecies.
Here we can see a lack of understanding on the author’s part in connection with the
Millennium. A vague picture of what subjects there will actually be in the Kingdom of a Thousand
Years can also be found in the prophet Zechariah.
So many peoples and mighty nations will come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the LORD.
Zech 8,20 "Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘It will yet be that
peoples will come, even the inhabitants of many cities. 8,21 ‘The inhabitants of one will go to
another, saying, "Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the LORD, and to seek the LORD of
hosts; I will also go." 8,22 ‘So many peoples and mighty nations will come to seek the
LORD of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the LORD.’ 8,23 "Thus says the
LORD of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all the nations will grasp the garment of a Jew,
saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."’" Zech
8,20-23;
In the case of the converted Jews, then, we must make a distinction based on the time of their conversion. If this occurs before the Coming of the Lord, then it is a conversion out of faith, and even if this person is a Jew by birth, he is a believing Christian, belongs to the congregation and is raptured with it – as Paul says, there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for it is the same Lord (Rom 10,12). But if this Jew only converts after the visible Second Coming of the Lord in glory for the Rapture of his faithful, he can no longer appeal to his belief and so is a part of that people of God of Israel on earth to which all the prophecies in the Kingdom of a Thousand Years apply. In the Kingdom of a Thousand Years there are no "believers" any longer.
(See also Chapter 10: "The Millennium.")
""
Now the text cited by Mr. Pache from Zech 12.10 has a quite different significance, one that is exceptionally important for the interpretation of the Rapture in Scripture. Let us first take a look at the passage:
They will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son.
Zech 12,10 "I will pour out on the house of David and on the
inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me
whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will
weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn. 12,11 "In that day there
will be great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12,12
"The land will mourn, every family by itself; the family of the house of David by itself and
their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself and their wives by
themselves; Zech 12,10-12;
Here God is speaking through the mouth of the prophet Zechariah. And in Zech 12,10
we find the statement: "They will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will
mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son." This prophecy naturally relates to the Son of God,
our Lord Jesus Christ, and his death on the cross (Jn 19,37). It is interesting to note here that in
some Hebrew manuscripts the "Me" has been changed to "him", because the Hebrews could
not imagine how it could be possible for Yahweh to be pierced.
So whereas the first part of this prophecy, speaking of how they have pierced God, has already been
fulfilled, the second part – namely, that the Jews will mourn over him – quite evidently still
remains open. The Jews see Jesus of Nazareth to this day as a fraud and blasphemer, and strictly
refuse to see him as their Messiah, let alone as the Son of God. For example, a Jewish forum
recently contained the following statement under the heading of "Jewish religion":
"For Christian missionary trash the "Jewish religion" section is
not competent. If you want to argue about the guy on the laths, please do it elsewhere."
(Contribution no. 006 dated 22.07.2004, 7:40 pm – Robbi P.) http://www.jewish-forum.de/showtopic.php?threadid=1278
And although that is just the derogatory remark of a German Jew, in its basic
tendency it is fully and completely in accord with the view of the population of all Israel of the
Mosaic faith, who reject Jesus of Nazareth today just as the Jewish Sanhedrin did in his lifetime.
And this also constitutes a proof that the foundation of the state of Israel in the year 1948 cannot
on any account have been the "gathering of the people of Israel by its God", as the Israelis and
also many Christian commentators believe. For as Scripture tells us both in the Old and in the New
Testament, it will be this Jesus of Nazareth, our Lord Jesus Christ, who will gather the true Israel
after the battle of Armageddon and immediately before the Kingdom of a Thousand Years.
That I should bring Jacob back to Him, so that Israel might be gathered to Him.
Isa 49,5 And now says the LORD, who formed Me from the womb to be
His Servant, that I should bring Jacob back to Him, so that Israel might be gathered to
Him (For I am honored in the sight of the LORD, And My God is My strength), 49,6 He says,
"It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and
to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My
salvation may reach to the end of the earth." Isa 49, 5- 6;
It is easy to recognize that it is the Lord Jesus who speaks in the above passage
from Isa 49,5-6, as also confirmed by Paul in his epistle to the Romans:
The deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob.
Rom 11,25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this
mystery-so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-that a partial hardening has happened
to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 11,26 and so all Israel will be saved;
just as it is written (Isa 59:20; Jer 31:33), "the deliverer will come from Zion, He will
remove ungodliness from Jacob.". Rom 11,25-26;
The real gathering of the true house of Israel will therefore be accomplished by the
Son of God – and only when the fullness of the Gentiles has attained to salvation.
(See also Discourse 08: "The gathering of Israel:
already since 1948, or not to happen until the Last Days?")
At this time the second part of the prophecy quoted earlier (Zech 12,10) – "They
will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son" – will be fulfilled, as we can also see in the
New Testament from Mt 24,29-31:
Then all the tribes of the land will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
Mt 24,29 "But immediately after the tribulation of those
days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall
from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 24,30 "And then the sign of the
Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the land will mourn, and they will
see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 24,31
"And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect
from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Mt 24,29-31;
This is the Second Coming of the Lord for the Rapture of his faithful, when he will
send out his angels to gather his elect. And as John tells us in Revelation, every eye – that is to
say, all human beings on earth – will then see him.
Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him.
Rev 1,7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will
see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is
to be. Amen. 1,8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and
who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Rev 1, 7- 8;
With this event of the Second Coming of the Lord and the Rapture, on the one hand
the time of the congregation on earth will come to an end, but at the same time it is the end of the
time of grace and of faith as well. Up to this time anyone could be saved who came to have faith
in Jesus Christ. But now the time of faith is over. All human beings have seen the Son of God coming
on the clouds. So belief in his existence is no longer possible – he has become a visible reality.
This is what the Lord said to Thomas when he could not bring himself to believe in Jesus’
Resurrection:
Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed
Jn 20,29 Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have
you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." Jn 20,29;
(See also Discourse 95: "Blessed are they who
did not see, and yet believed.").
So this reveals that the Jews – and all other nations who will
see this event – can no longer come to belief, and so can no longer be raptured.
There is no belief any longer, only giving glory and praise to God. As Thomas
also said on that occasion, ‘My Lord and my God’
. The kingdom of the Holy Spirit
is over, now begins the kingdom of the Son, the Millennium.
(See also Table 09: "God’s plan of salvation and
its effects on Creation.").
Conclusion
As we can see from the above analysis, this argument of Mr. Pache’s is to be put down to his
ignorance of the realities of the Millennial Kingdom. Nor, clearly, has he considered in this
connection the scriptural statements relating to the Rapture in Mt 24,29-31, Rev 1,7-8 and Zech
12,10-12, and the text of Mt 24,29 – "but immediately after the affliction of those days"
- has been consistently ignored.
(See also Discourse 63: "Conditions of live in the
Millennial Kingdom .")
(Texts in a black frame are quotations from visitors to this site or from other authors.)
A confirmation of the fact that the departure of the congregation gives the signal for the Great
Tribulation is to be found, finally, in the following thought: Paul calls the faithful the
ambassadors of God in this world, who entreat sinners to be reconciled with God (2Cor 5,20). Now
if ambassadors who offer peace are shamelessly turned away and abused, their government recalls
them, and the result is war. So also one day, when God’s ambassadors are relieved of their
office this will be the event that triggers the fearful judgment which will bring God’s cause to
final victory.
This of course is anything but a confirmation of the pretribulationist Rapture.
Especially when we consider that in this same Great Tribulation – from which, in the author’s
opinion these "ambassadors" want, in the interests of safety, to take their leave prematurely -
Scripture tells us that hundreds and millions of the faithful will have lived and died (Rev 7,14).
And these faithful who have lost their lives in the Great Tribulation are then seen later by John,
in heaven, in Rev 7,13-17:
These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation.
Rev 7,13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who
are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?" 7,14 I said to
him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of
the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the
Lamb. 7,15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and
night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 7,16 "They
will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat;
7,17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs
of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes." Rev 7, 13-17;
They have come out of the tribulation of those days and now stand, after their
raising from the dead and Rapture, before the throne of God and serve him day and night. And as the
elder says to John, now "they will hunger no longer nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down
on them, nor any heat" – referring to all the afflictions that they had during their life on
earth.
The tribulation of those days is not yet a judgment of God, but rather consists in the wars, plagues,
catastrophes and famines that human beings have themselves occasioned on this planet. Those of the
and-time congregation who have died in this period as a result of wars, hunger and thirst
or as a martyr will be raptured together with the believers who are still alive immediately
following the tribulation of those days, on the Second Coming of the Lord. The judgment of
God and the Day of his Wrath, does not come until the plagues of the bowls.
Conclusion
It may be the case that worldly ambassadors flee from the countries to which
they are posted, and go home at the first signs of war and catastrophe. The
ambassadors of God are subject to a quite different law. We have a mandate from
our God to proclaim the truth so that people can be saved:
God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim 2,3 This is good and acceptable in the
sight of God our Savior, 2,4 who desires all men to be
saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2,5 For there is one
God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 2,6 who
gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. 1Tim
2, 3- 6;
But contrary to the opinion of many preachers and evangelists –
especially in the missions – we do not have to proclaim this truth to all people
in all places and at all times, because our Lord Jesus Christ has also commanded
us:
Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.
Mt 10,14 ‘Whoever does not receive you, nor
heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off
your feet. 10,15 Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the
land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.’ Mt
10,14-15;
So these are the guidelines for a messenger of God in normal
times – i.e. until the Great Tribulation. If in such normal times every single
preacher who is killed by Islamic fanatics in Islamist countries, for example,
is one too many, different conditions apply in the Great Tribulation.
In this time of the Great Tribulation, the Antichrist will forcibly introduce
the Jewish Mosaic religion throughout the world, claiming to be the ‘Messiah’
prophesied in the Jewish Scriptures. In these days anyone who worships Jesus
Christ will be condemned to death as an idolater.
And of course it is particularly important to convince people of the truth and
of the salvation in Jesus Christ, notwithstanding the great danger involved. But
since it will then be only a few years more until the Rapture, this will no
longer be a great risk for the believing Christian.
It is then only a question of whether we, as biblical Christian preachers, will
be gathered together by the angels of our Lord while still living, or will be
raised from the dead first in order to be raptured all together into the air to
the Lord.
Especially in these times the wheat will be separated from the chaff, and the
real character of an ambassador of God will become apparent: Is he indifferent
to his fellow human beings and is he only trying to save his own life, or is he
willing to risk his life to give people hope and bring them to faith even in
extreme situations?
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The first and the second Antichrist
part 1, Discourse 86